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, how much play is this getting over in london where you are? >> it's global fascination with the u.s. focused on this issue. they listen to what we say to each other and what we think is important. they're listening with some sense of whimsy with what we're up to. >> general, thank you so much. >>> and speaking of the fbi investigation, i guess, who on capitol hill should have been told, defense secretary leon panetta was asked about that this morning. >> that's another issue that we got to look at. as former director of cia and having worked very closely with the intelligence committees, you know, i believe that there's a responsibility to make sure that the intelligence committees are informed of issues that could affect, you know, the security of those intelligence operations. >> both mike rogers, they're going to press the cia over the time line of the investigation. >> we have rules and laws that specify when you kick these matters up the command chain. we'll find out if those rules were violated. looking at the fbi part of the investigation, if you're the superior of the guy wh
on sensitive information in her possession. multiple u.s. officials have insisted to nbc news there was no security breach. let me bring in major garrett, white house reporter and tim carney for "the washington examiner." good morning to both of you. tim, let me start with you. are you surprised about the decision apparently by general petraeus to testify before the senate intelligence committee? >> i know that on capitol hill and probably in the media there was a shock that he was going to back out of it. that just his quitting his job shouldn't have been enough to get him out of testifying on what was the biggest blowup at the cia in recent years when he was charge of it so i'm not surprised he turned around but that he could back out, he thought. >> not what president obama wanted to talk about at his first post-election briefing but what is the first question about? >> about general petraeus, general allen and this entire context of what is happening in the senior military leadership. what was going on with jill kelley and what, if anything, it has to do with the underlyin
hymn standing with a bunch of mannequins they use as a firing range, three of them and then him as the fourth without his shirt on like the manny kins it wasn't meant to be sexual it was meant to be funny. it wasn't interpreted as anything inappropriate according to this person. as for the agent, now that his name is out there, it makes sense about why he called initially a congressman from washington because frederick hump fridays 16-year veteran of the cia, worked in washington state there in 1999, had a big patrol play in investigating the millennium bomb plot against the l.a. airport and he knew the congressman from washington, that he called because that congressman used to be the sheriff there it would make sense he would call that congressman here raentsecently he thought the investigation was stalled. details are falling into place. >> tell me about the house intelligence hearing today. trying to get more information about the benghazi events and general patreaus is meeting with lawmakers in the house and senate tomorrow. >> we are unable to know what is being said becau
that year by year recedes before us. it eluded us then, but tomorrow we will run faster, stretch our arms further and one fine morning, so we beat on. boats against the current, brn back ceaselessly into the past. that's "hardball." that really is "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. mole tic politics nation with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to for you tuning in. i'm al sharpton live in philadelphia. tonight's lead, hey republicans, elections have consequences. remember that. they may not like it, but some republicans are starting to cave into reality. and ignore their tea party dead enders. president obama is healthy. he's planning a national campaign to rally support for his vision of fairness. the same vision that american voted for on election day. he'll take his message beyond the beltway asking the public to pressure republicans back in washington about raising taxes on the rich. some in the gop know they lost badly and are starting to deal with it. conservative pundit bill crystal surprised a lot of people when he went on fox news and started
. joins me now is u.s. senator sherrod brown. we have nina turner coming up later on. >> i love watching nina on your show. >> i get you passionate ohio folks mixed up. >> that's okay. >> sherrod brown with us and mary kay henry, president of the services employment international union who met with the president today. i would be remiss, mary kay, if i did not ask you right off the bat, did the president say he was not going to budge on taxes? he did it once in 2010, and he won't do it again? >> the president was incredibly serious and focused and really relieved to hear that we are going to keep our ground game going, that our working people and community members all across this country are ready to have this fight and want to have the middle class tax cuts permanently extended. that's the action that congress can take right now. and then work together to make sure that the wealthiest americans pay their fair share so we can get back to work. >> well, did he tell the group that he was not going to budge on taxes? >> he was crystal clear about that, yes. >> so you're confirming the huffi
and enjoy this country. i wish her well. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead -- seven days later, and paul ryan still can't handle the truth. one week after president obama crushed the gop, congressman paul ryan returned to his day job on capitol hill today, carrying his own bags, like much of the republican party, he still seems dazed about the national rejection he took. and in an interview he told a local tv station what it felt like to lose. >> what it had become clear to us as things went on, in avirginia and ohio weren't coming together, that it looked to me some time early in the evening that it just wasn't going to happen. >> and what did that feel like for you? what -- >> it was very disappointing. we had good days, bad days. it was a great experience. i'm very fortunate to have had this experience, but losing never feels good. >> no, losing doesn't feel good. but not learning the lessons of that loss isn't good either. at his core t
to "morning joe." with us on set, we have the president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass. richard. >> good morning. >> chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch. get over it. okay? get over it. >> get over what? what are you talking about? >> all of you are in here. in washington, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> richard's in here? >> i don't know why. i'm serious. what's going on? also, look at this cast we have today, the author of "thomas jefferson, the art of power," historian jon meacham. is meacham here? meacham, look at him. >> lots of books. >> and willie, congratulations on your newest honor. >> thank you. are you in nashville, jon meacham? >> i'm in washington. going to be in nashville tomorrow. >> he needs a pipe in that setting. >> yes, he should, and a fireplace. >> you're saying donny's milking this thing. >> we talked about it for ten minutes. we got on the set and donny's, like, can we do this again today? >> unfortunately, joe and i are on what's called the decaying page. guys falling apart. we're on the preside
the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the president didn't learn about the fbi investigation until last thursday and why they didn't learn until a day later, the day petraeus resigned. but eric canter learned tof it two weeks earlier. >>> washington lawmakers will be returning to the capitol this morning and will be buzzing about the petraeus and allen investigations. but they're also going to be faced with a much larger problem. we're talking about the trillion dollar fiscal cliff, which if not dealt with before the end of the year will impact everyone in america. so today president obama will be meeting with key labor and progressive leaders at the white house for the first in a series of high-profile economic talks he will be hosting this week. >>> to other news, from hurricane sandy and last week's nor'easter to spring-like
still has faith in general john allen. he, of course, is the current u.s. commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer paul broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. john allen who took over from petraeus in afghanistan and is the president's choice to be supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe, a nomination now temporarily on hold. >> sweetheart, thank you for all that you have done for me and for our precious -- >> reporter: the general is married with a sterling record but on a flight to australia monday night aides to defense secretary leon panetta said there was a dramatic turn in the case. fbi investigators uncovered potentially inappropriate communications between the general and jill ke
witt" starts now. >>> on the brink. fighting escalates in the middle east. what's the u.s. role if it turns into a ground war? we discuss it next. >>> let's make a deal. the latest in talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. should we believe lawmakers will get it done and get it done soon? >>> new twists. the two women behind the falls of america's top spy and how they ended up at the white house on more than one occasion. the saga continues. good morning, everyone, welcome to "weekends with alex witt," we're going to get to what's happening right now out there as we have breaking news on the escalating and deadly crisis in the middle east as it enters its fourth day. overnight explosions could be seen, you see them there, over the gaza skyline. israeli officials say a rocket from gaza injured three soldiers today. israel expanded its air assault, bombing the prime minister's compound and other official buildings. the assault also killed a hamas commander. in israel troops are gathering at the border where many roads into gaza are closed. the military is ready for a ground assault with
in january, the woman at the center of the alleged extramarital affair. and we use the word "alleged" very loosely there with cia director david petraeus which led to the resignation from his post on friday. good morning. with us on set, msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. the president on the council on foreign relations, richard haass and author of "foreign policy begins at home: the case for putting america's house in order." and from washington, we've got nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. the great john heilemann also here. >> we also have willie geist. >> the great willie geist also here. >> we did your show. it's a cute little show. >> it's fun, right? it's a good show. >> how's your new life? >> it started nine seconds ago, so i'll let you know. >> your swan song on friday being called by some the greatest swan song since the beatles recording abbey road. >> the "m.a.s.h." finale, i got a lot of that. >> so what's the chances that this paula broadwell, is that her name? >> yes. >> paula broadwell is on "morning joe" the one day that i'm off over the last
," good to have you with us. that's "the ed show." i'm ed shultz. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, thank you, my friend. thank you for stays with us. whatever post election lull we could count on, the lull has been cancelled this year. new reporting tonight about the scandal that has forced general petraeus out of government, out as head of the cia, and there are a ton of questions. and even though president obama's reelection was settled at about 11:15 p.m. eastern last tuesday, the election overall is still underway in some parts of the country, including one place where it appears to have mostly just broken down with a bunch of federal level races still undecided. and the state in question is not florida for once. important updates coming up there including what may be a deconcession by a democrat who previously thought he had lost in a big important u.s. senate race. that's all ahead. >>> but we have to begin with breaking news out of washington. "the washington post" is reporting tonight that president obama is considering massachusetts senator john kerry
figures. reaction to that and, of course, the fiscal cliff facing us all. we'll have senator patti murray to preview that. who will lead the democrats to a larger majority for 2013. plus, exit strategy one week after election day. what do voters' thoughts and some key questions tell us where the two parties are about where the country is moving on some serious policy issues? we'll show you the not so obvious differences between the swing states and the national averages. those numbers in today's deep dive. autopsy 2012. >>> also this hour, we're going to hear live from maine's independent senator elect, angus king, about which party he plans to caucus with in the senate. he has to make that decision. pretty obvious where he's going but he's creating some drama anyway. and then we're counting down to nancy pelosi's big announcement about her future. will she step aside as the top democrat in the house? we will learn that this hour. >>> good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 14, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get right to my first reads of the morni
broadwell and petraeus went to lengths to try and stop their e-mails being traced, by using this system of saving in the draft folder in their e-mail accounts and stuff. so they were clearly aware of the risk of being watched. and yet they still went ahead and sent e-mails on an extraordinary scale. and you've got to ask questions about these are people who are trained in intelligence matters, and yet even they can't forget about the dangers of using e-mail. and what does that mean for the rest of us? >> i know what it means for them. it means that neither one of them knew a 15-year-old who could have told them how to get around having their e-mails discovered. >> "wall street journal" has some of the fresher reporting today on this including some of the things about the e-mails for those interested in every detail. i recommend you plunk down whatever "the journal" costs. >> you want to read it while peter continues with the news? >> we've got information about like the names on the accounts. >> the level of preparation for this show is fantastic. >> according to "the wall street journa
of myanmar, as it transitions towards democracy. during the first visit by a sitting u.s. president, mr. obama pledged that the u.s. will be friends with any nation that respects its people's rights and international law. nbc political director and chief white house reporter chuck todd has been traveling with the president. chuck, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, veronica. president obama is the first president to ever visit myanmar. i can tell you it's been a whirlwind day here for the president. the president got here, greeted by throngs of people of this country at times getting very close actually to the motorcade. the first thing he did after he met with the president is he went to nobel peace prize winner aung san suu kyi, who of course is the big democracy activist here in myanmar. the president was here and made the case why myanmar needs to continue its democratic reform and also told the story of the evolution of american democracy hoping it would serve as a model. here's a little bit of that speech. >> i stand before you today, the president of the most powerfu
that had everybody walk out of it and use the word constructive and talk about how nice the meeting was, when they've gotten down to brass tacks and what would have to be done and where the tax rates would need to be raised and where the cuts to medicare and medicaid would need to be, both sides seem unwilling to believe that the other side is really serious about making the changes that then. >> ben bernanke weighed in on this yesterday. let me play that for you. >> indeed, by the reckoning of the congressional budget office, the cbo, and that of many outside observers, a fiscal shock of that size would send the economy toppling back into recession. >> everyone i've had on this program, all the members of congress, have said to me, joanne, we have to get this done, of course it's going to get done. but we should remember it was a year ago today the grand bargain failed. so what's it going to take? >> you know, i think it might take the new congress being seated. i mean, if you think about it, you still have a lame duck congress so, while the election may have changed the atmosphere and
this? >> law enforcement and multiple u.s. paula broadwell, his biographer were indicative of an extramarital affair. . >> really? e-mail? all they had to do to have america's general is to log on to his e-mail? any way we can intrigue that little sound bite up a bit? multiple law enforcement officials tell us e-mails between him and paula broadwell, his biographer were indicative of an extramarital affair. >> how exciting. >> good morning. it is tuesday, november 13th. welcome to "morning joe." with us onset, we have national affairs editor for new york magazine and msnbc political analyst john heilemann. msnbc political analyst mark haleprin, and the author of a new book "thomas jefferson: the art of power," jon meacham. >> who never e-mailed anyone. >> are you sure? >> actually, no. >> best-selling, that thing skyrocketed -- >> the fbi is looking into monticello e-mail. >> thomas jefferson, the randy bugger. >> by the way, heilemann is the national affairs writer for -- >> yes. >> this is going to be a long show. >> by the way -- >> growth industry. >> in the line of boo
's melrose place. >> but as the world turns, conservative confusion continues. >> the election is behind us and we're ready to get started. joob we start making tracks to abandon our principles. >> we have to become more moderate? >> latinos are calling this cinc o denio. it wasn't enough at the end of the day. >> mr. president, over to you. >> i'm open to new ideas, but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. ♪ >>> we begin with an action-packed day in washington. fallout from the petraeus affair is turning into a nesting doll of military indiscretions. a scandal now involving general john allen, the man nominated to be the supreme commander of nato. general allen is being investigated for alleged inappropriate contact, a veritable treasure trove of e-mail correspondence with jill kelley, the woman who online activities led to the investigation of paula broadwell. for his part general al sentence denying misconduct, but the scandal goes further because an internal fbi inquiry has been launched into the agent who started the investigation. a senior government official has tol
scandal in the basic sense. i wager not many of us even those hopping mad lawmakers, though would want to go back to the days of j. edgar hoover and the fbi uncovering personal peck a dill ohs and using them for political game. now time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." have a great night. >>> tonight, america has a new biggest loser. move over sarah palin, you are now no longer the vice presidential candidate that will never be president. >> i know the election was a long time ago. >> one full week since election day. >> i wanted to refresh everyone's memories. >> we made this campaign about big ideas and big issues. >> big issues. >> just wasn't enough at the end of the day. >> that lost. >> they lost. >> this was a real shellacking. >> losing never feels good. >> we were surprised at the outcome. >> what are the lessons for conservatives? >> the primary problem is an economic message. >> the problem is. >> a demographic problem. >> disrespecting women the last two years. >> we were surprised in the outcome. the president won the rac
a dill ohs and using them for political game. now time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." have a great night. >>> tonight, america has a new biggest loser. move over, sarah palin, you are now no longer the vice presidential candidate that will never be president. >> i know the election was a long time ago. >> one full week since election day. >> i wanted to refresh everyone's memories. >> we made this campaign about big ideas and big issues. >> big issues. >> just wasn't enough at the end of the day. >> that lost. >> they lost. >> this was a real shellacking. >> losing never feels good. >> we were surprised at the outcome. >> what are the lessons for conservatives? >> the primary problem is an economic message. >> the problem is. >> a demographic problem. >> disrespecting women the last two years. >> we were surprised in the outcome. the president won the race, i congratulated him on the race. >> the republican party needs to get it together. >> the hard part is where you get there. >> congress returns for lame duck session. >> back from recess with a daunting ta
house correspondent chuck todd. thanks for joining us tonight. this was a hot pressure cooker press conference and you were in the middle. let's talk about the president's tactic. it looks like he's got one. here he is sticking out his message of defending the middle class today, sticking to it. he practically dared the republicans to hold tax cuts for the middle class hostage. he went back to that word hostage. let's take a look. >> the other option is to pass a law right now that would prevent any tax hike whatsoever on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. i hope republicans in the house come on board, too. we should not hold the middle class hostage while we debate tax cuts for the wealthy. the most important step we can take right now, i think the foundation for a deal that helps the economy, creates jobs, gives consumersty, which means gives consumers confidence they'll have consumers during the holiday season if we right away say 98% of americans aren't going to see their taxes go up. >> i thought that was pretty well crafted as a tactic. i don't know if it's a strategy.
meets "homeland," it's just too sordidly delicious not to have us spending, us in the immediate yashgs spending some time figuring out what in the heck was going on here. i do have to say i really think there are a lot of important questions to be dealt with at the news conference beyond the petraeus matter. there's not a lot that the president can say or add to it. i know there's going to be some questions, but, please, can't we drill down on the fiscal cliff which is really a lot more important for the country? >> one thing, though, and, you know, with petraeus back on the schedule to testify again it's closed but hogan, the white house has stayed largely out of the petraeus fray and our own chuck todd saying on his show this morning that the obama administration doesn't really see petraeus as their guy. he served in multiple administrations has the backing of a lot of republicans but with him now testifying before the senate intelligence committee tomorrow is this where the white house could start to feel more the heat? >> absolutely. i mean, look, he was somebody else's pick but he
. and do you know, michael, not to compare this to say 50 years ago, the fbi used to get in a lot of trouble when it would investigate the personal lives of high-profile plig figures and others, you will remember dr. martin luther king, not to compare petraeus to martin luther king, but it is to say they got in a lot of trouble when they were looking at people's personal lives when there wasn't a crime or security question involved. it's congress' obligation here if they believe there should have been reporting earlier, it's congress' obligation to write a statute to say that. >> it's no question that the j. edgar hoover-led fbi did a lot of nefarious things in the name of national security. goldie, of course, petraeus was to testify on benghazi later this week. paula broadwell spoke about the region in denver just before all of this broke. let's take a listen. >> i don't know if a lot of you have heard this, but the cia annex had actually -- it headachen a couple libyan militia members prison and they think the attack was an attempt to get the prisoners back. >> it does raise que
who have gotten into some difficulty through these investigations. joining us at the table, pete williams, our justice correspondent, kristen well sker, white house correspondent, michael isikoff. >> pete, first to you. we're seeing that jay carney is referring all messages and information and all questions to the justice department. you cover the justice department and the fbi. how did they get into this investigation now of general allen? they were looking at jill kelley's e-mails presumably because she complained about harassment, potential harassment about threatening e-mails that were anonymous and that, of course, led to paula broadwell who led to david petraeus and the relationship that was then uncovered. how did general allen get into this mix? >> your question has the answer in it. basically, jill kelley complained she was getting harassing e-mails. the fbi eventually found who was sending the e-mails, but that caused them to look at both the e-mails that jill kelley was receiving and the ones that paula broadwell was sending. in the midst of looking at the e-mails jill
of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour. every hour there are new allegations as pertains to genera
deeper, that fact into this plot tonight. joining us right now is "washington post" reporter sauer ri horowitz, and david woods senior military correspondent for "the huffington post." give me a sense, i don't want people to get lost before we start, let me take may own shot at this, how the whole thing is put together. let's watch. the messy and complex web begins with david petraeus. in 2006 petraeus meets paula broadwell, a west point graduate and doctoral student after giving a speech at harvard. fast forward to may of this year. another woman, jill kelley, a friend of petraeus and his wife, begins receiving harassing e-mails. she asks a friend at the fbi to help launch an investigation. the e-mails it is eventually discovered are being sent by broadwell. the fbi also discovers that broadwell and petraeus have been having an affair. meanwhile, the fbi agent who kelley approached gross frustrated after he's kept off the case. his supervisors reportedly are concerned that he has, quote, grown obsessed with the matter. it's also uncovered that he has sent shirtless photos of himself
's on a good day. thanks for being up with us. shoot us an e-mail or tweet u us and let us know why you're awake right now. or do what jill kelley's twin sister does and text the word awake followed by your response to 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. >> you kids make sure if your dad sends an e-mail, the shirt stays on. okay? seriously. i'm tired of looking at your dad's bare chest. >>> this will be your cram session for this tuesday, november 13th. there's a lot going on today. >> yeah. >> i mean a lot. including new speculation on who could be next in line for the post of secretary of defense and secretary of state if they didn't send e-mails without their shirts on. and late-night comics take aim on the general petraeus scandal. >>> first let's get to the news at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock. we begin with developing news in the general david petraeus scandal. overnight in charlotte, north carolina, fbi agents searched the home of paula broadwell, the b biographer who officials say had an affair with general petraeus. agents were reportedly scene leaving the home wit
, blink and it's time for the show. really? >> no wonder it took us so long to catch bin laden. these guys were probably waiting for him to check in on four square. really? >> really? and don't think you're getting off easy here jill kelley. you tell someone about weird e-mails you're getting and you don't think someone might check your e e-mails? really? it's the fbi. you dent think they are going to follow up? have you never watched an episode of any show ever? really? >> and really unnamed fbi agent, you became obsessed with a woman while investigating her in an e-mail scandal and then e-mailed her shirtless photos. really? weiner, chris lee, brett favre, it's 2012. it's time to recognize the male physique carries zero allure. stop sending us pictures of it. >> don't you watch "homeland"? that show is this exact story line. i defy you to find one happy character in that whole show. no really. go ahead. >> really? >> really. defend your gender. >> that's pretty good. >> i used to write novels and sometimes i look at things that happen in life and it's like if you put that in a novel. and
you tell us? >> well, first of all, there was a stage where they found some classified information on paula broadwell's computer. and until they shut down any possibility that it had come from general petraeus, which it did not, they still had an open investigation. they initially, of course, did not know who was sending these supposedly threatening e-mails. and then they traced it to paula broadwell and then when they saw e-mails that they then traced back to general petraeus, they thought someone had hacked into his computer. they did not think it was from general petraeus, so they still had an inquiry, an open line of inquiry into whether or not someone had hacked into the secure e-mails of the cia. >> so they got a court order to look at paula broadwell -- >> from the national security court. >> it was a regular court. it wasn't fisa. >> did they ever get a court order to go into general petraeus' e-mail account? >> he cooperated in that sense. >> going back to paula broadwell, i'm going to play a sound bite from her, october 26 at the university of denver, which is only going
a dill ohs and using them for political game. >>> right now on "first look," new details surrounding the scandal involving two u.s. generals and the women they were involved with. >>> president obama will face the media head on regarding petraeus and allen, as well as the nation's fiscal cliff. >>> and a tragic plane crash kills three pilots on their way to an faa safety conference. well, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and today for the first time we expect to hear from president obama directly as his administration is rocked by scandals involving two of the men he counted on most, former cia director david petraeus and afghan war commander general john allen. well, the newest headlines in the investigation are creating even more of a tangled web. this morning "the wall street journal" reports general allen, who is now under investigation for e-mails between he and jill kelley of tampa, florida, is telling associates that he received an e-mail traced back to paula broadwell, the petraeus biographer accused of sending harassing e-mails to jill kelley. according to "the journa
. >> or even thursday u.s. exactly. >> although by thursday his national security team knew and was about to inform him about the petraeus possible resignation. >> all the reason they wanted to delay. >> let's talk for a moment first about the fiscal cliff. the business leaders who came in following, of course, the labor leaders and others who came in yesterday to talk about the bargaining and the terms of reference, what did he hear from the business community about what bargains points he should be making and how important it is or isn't to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> the business community wants certainty. that's what they care more about anything else. they want certainty. the question is going to be how much of an ally can they be to the president. he has a specific goal he has in mind. decoupling the bush tax rates if you will, for the wealthy, 250 for couples and above and everybody else. it's a bill that's already passed the senate. the president wants to get that enacted into law and then have the discussion about tax reform. and i -- the question is going to be, does he try to ge
'll be discussing details in the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that resulted in the death of christopher stevens and three others. >>> also, the controversy over u.n. ambassador susan rice calling the assault spontaneous in september reached a boiling point. yesterday president obama and his first news conference since re-election exploded at republicans finger pointing over rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and besmir much her reputation is outrageous. >> earlier, senators mccain and graham slammed rice vowing to stop her rumored nomination as secretary of state. >> i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she didn't know better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> we'll do whatever is necessary to block the nomination. >> all right. so back to petraeus. "the wall street journal" report
correspondents, kristen welker and michael isikoff michael? >> what we learned last night, general allen, the u.s. commander in afghanistan has been implicated in this because of 20,000 to 30,000 documents exchanged with jill kelley. the tampa associatite who triggered this investigation when she complained about those menacing e-mails that she had been getting from an anonymous sourt who turned out to be paula broadwell, the woman who was having the affair with cia director david petraeus. what we were being told that the original e-mails, these anonymous e-mails from broadwell to kelley did not initially specifically reference petraeus, it talked about her, kelley's relationship with other generals at the u.s. central command. and southern command, suggesting that she was having an inappropriate relationship with them, that she ought to watch it and cut it out, as described to me from a source. we know that general allen who's now the center of this was the deputy command at central command until 2010. so, by implication, we can assume from the beginning, at least when paula broadwell began sen
resignation, wants to bring in msnbc military analyst, retired u.s. army colonel, jack jacobs. colonel jack, thanks for sticking around. first of all, let's start with where vic left off. what do you make of the timing of all of this? >> i don't see anything untoward about this. i think the fbi investigated as quickly as they could. i think as soon as they found something out, they talked to him. there was a bit of a delay in notifying the president. but that's something else altogether. you were asking about gen ben ghazi, do you want to talk benghazi? >> yeah. >> you've been on the ground. you know, you know what it's like to be on the ground when your intelligence is no good, i think from a military standpoint, i don't think it made any sense whatsoever to send a quick reaction force, which would neither be quick, nor would it necessarily be able to react to what was on the ground. by that time, anyway, ambassador stevens was dead. >> let's talk about from a personal standpoint. i know that you have known david petraeus and his wife, holly, for about the same length of time that they've
in afghanistan. according to a u.s. senior defense official the fbi uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of e-mails between the general and jill kelley. now kelley is the woman whose initial complaint to the fbi led to the discovery of evidence about the affair between general petraeus and his biographer paula broadwell. defense secretary panetta's comments on the scandal and his future in the obama administration. then there's the fbi agent and friend of jill kel yae's. he's now subject of an internal fbi probe himself for inappropriate behavior. let's get into the details. overnight the pentagon announced this, that general allen's nomination to be allied supreme commander over all of anywnato been delayed and panetta has asked them to ex pa diet joseph dunfer. >> while this matter is under investigation and before the facts are determined, general allen will remain commander. general allen is entitled to due process in this matter. in the meantime the secretary has asked the president, and the president has agreed, to put his nomination on hold until the relevant facts are determined.
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